[00:00:02] Howdy there's Superstars, my name is Aaron. This shit ain't nothing to me man and you're listening to SuperPod Saga Yeah, hello, listen to your cello Superstar is hi. Yeah, my name is Aaron Of course I'm your wonderful charismatic host

[00:00:29] Available to rent a row of VHS and DVD all that stuff Yeah, the SuperPod Saga. I'll show you listening to right now. It's see of pretty First-time listeners the podcast where we discuss a different video game topic each week with different guests

[00:00:45] This week we're talking about abandoned video game mechanics Yeah, I guess as it sounds different video game mechanics that have Come and gone throughout the years either from something back in like the 80s or 90s or

[00:00:58] Even the early 2000s also. There's a lot of stuff. I want to talk about from the early 2000s that like they did and then they were just like nope Watch their hands of it But before we get to that let's introduce the guests Returning once again for I

[00:01:15] Forget how many episodes it's been but it's been quite a few hello Matt storm hello Hello, I'm happy to be back. I think it's this is my fourth so Jeff and I guess did together once I Guested once

[00:01:30] When Tommy was stalling the show and then I did a third one. Oh with um with Jerry of Super Ghost Yeah, we did the who you want to have drink with so is who you want to have a drink with?

[00:01:41] Let's see if I can pull all the titles favorite multiplayer games and What the hell was the one Jeff and I were on together? I've got a pull up right now if you'll me to tell you yeah. Well, was it games that were worth the wait

[00:01:54] Oh games over so right great. That's right. Yeah. Yeah. Okay cool. All right. Well, so I had two out of three Look I have all the side quest episodes still in my head still like I just like I can't no

[00:02:04] Remember them by number, but I can remember what everyone has done an episode on like Eric Spoiler alert is also joining us did one on King March 2 and then you have done one on steamworld heist and you are

[00:02:17] Have an upcoming one that will remain a mystery. Yeah, it's coming pretty soon, too So I think just at 303 today or yesterday yesterday. Yeah, okay Well, making his grand debut one super pot saga. It's been a long time coming It's Eric from the unlockables. Hello sir

[00:02:36] What is up guys? I earned it so awesome to be finally beyond the super pot saga with you We tried to do this as you mentioned a couple of times and I've just kind of been a pain in the ass about the scheduling end, of course

[00:02:48] My son was recently born so that kind of also through revrents into things as well But I'm finally here. I'm ready to talk and Aaron has been on my show before I interviewed him

[00:02:58] Probably 40ish episodes ago now. He was one of the last interviews I did before I kind of went On some solo stuff and kind of started my what I'm now better known for as my gigantic kingdom hearts

[00:03:09] Play through series that have been going through for the last couple years Nice man is your is yours your show still on like hiatus or ending or whatever or is it still going

[00:03:20] No, I thought that with a new kid coming that I was gonna put it on kind of indefinite hiatus and Kind of finished it out when I finished my kingdom heart series because that just kind of felt poetic to me

[00:03:31] And I didn't know having a first time dad coming back what my capacity to do the show would be or kind of play games or doing that stuff But as he was born I kind of was working on stuff

[00:03:41] I was like oh, I can kind of make this work in a smart kind of balance way So I've been putting out stuff just kind of when I can put it out not holding myself to a schedule and being like hey

[00:03:50] When I get done with this it is what it is so everyone's in a while They'll be a surprise unlockables drop just that kind of on whatever I feel like oh right and you're talking about run on amazing

[00:04:01] Yeah, I love unlockables. I'm also a kind of mart psycho as well like I love the third game You know wasn't perfect but I love the whole series. I love the third game

[00:04:11] I've been wanting to replay them. I the playstation for like package of like all the games together It's been my wishlist for ages, but I haven't picked it up

[00:04:19] But I will say also I really loved your coverage that you did with Rick on final fantasy nine that mini series You guys did huge fan of that like I love final fantasy nine

[00:04:28] I finally finished it only a few years ago and it became my favorite final fantasy It's a planted seven only just barely and That mini series like when you guys were talking about the emotional moments like I'm sitting at work trying to quietly cry while working

[00:04:43] Thank you is just Well done so to you know Rick of course we know runs a great ship, but you were a huge part of that Eric and I really dug it

[00:04:51] Well, I really appreciate that and Rick was the beating heartbeat in that and shout out to Rick and pixel project ready another great show You should go listen to um it was an honor to be on that with him

[00:05:01] Yeah, Rick's awesome. We shot him out quite a bit on this show He uh he still has yet to make his grand debut on here too, but he's he's very busy. I understand it. It's it's really busy Well

[00:05:14] Matt go ahead and feel listeners that they haven't heard you before intro your show and And talk about yourself and he came to like or Maybe maybe your favorites your favorite dipping sauce your favorite like anything dipping sauce Okay, so

[00:05:29] I'm Matt a case storm again now. So go by Matt storm which is my actual legal name. Yes, my storm is my actual last name I uh I host several podcasts the one that might be most relevant to your listeners is funny games

[00:05:43] Which is a general topic podcast not unlike this Where we either do retrospectives or we interview developers or composers or we talk about certain genres We recently didn't episode about sign posting a video game centered around the release of dragons dogma tube

[00:06:00] But talking about how games of all genres will sign post or not sign post what you need to do in The game and what are the like best ways that it's done but worse ways it's done as well

[00:06:10] Which is really fun chat and then the sub series in that fetus side quests which we mentioned a little bit earlier Which is a different host coming on every episode and talking about a game the 11-wide

[00:06:18] I love it and we have returning hosts. We have lists my favorite episodes like I love everybody who does it But when I have a listener send me a voice memo from their iPhone that I get to edit and put out to the world

[00:06:28] And like share how much they love a game and like they don't even have anything to promote They're just a person like recently soccer who is in a ton of our discord Who's just a delightful human and a podcast fan did an episode on

[00:06:41] Juten I think it's pronounced the Viking game that came out a few years ago. Oh, yeah And it was incredible and I just I love that

[00:06:49] I love one folks who just love a game and want to talk about it with nothing else to promote just want to do a thing Come on and that's a lot of fun We've had a lot more of those lately

[00:06:58] And then I do a bio-rejected podcast also as if when we're recording this we just finished dragon age Origins we did the whole mass-factrillagee and then in drama Talking about like our choices and trying to put ourselves in the place of the character

[00:07:12] And we're about to move on to dragon age two which is controversially my favorite in the franchise a lot of folks like to hit on dragon age two Cuz it was linear repetitive dungeons, but I think it has some of the best storytelling in the series

[00:07:24] And yeah, that's kind of what's current. I have a show on hiatus that's about tv and movies called screen snark That's really great and stars on awesome backlog And then I also happened to if that wasn't enough edit for the game in former show

[00:07:36] Which is pretty neat since I've been reading that since I was like in high school Let's see 91 yeah since I was in high school and now I'm editing their flagship podcast which is pretty neat And then favorite dipping sauce so this is tough for a lot of reasons

[00:07:54] Because I know you don't ask the simple questions So I have a dietary restrictions now as a kid I went over the hell I don't it, but it's an adult like gluten free I can't have a lot of dairy like all those different stuff, but like let's say

[00:08:10] Unabashed like I could have whatever I want No restrictions. I think it's either duck sauce most commonly with chinese food or just straight up barbecue sauce not that honey barbecue non-sense Mesquite regular barbers barbecue sauce those those are my favorite

[00:08:29] Yeah, I think those those are my two favorite dipping sauces if I had to pick nice all of all those answers I know I still don't know how you do all that that you do Yeah, me neither

[00:08:43] Sometimes I'll like I'll edit an episode get it out and they'll be like well, I'm done with the internet for The rest of this week Right, yeah, and I'll move on to say unicorn overlord which is which is amazing by the way everybody go play that

[00:08:59] But yeah Eric Mr. Man go ahead and introduce yourself and your show and yeah Your favorite dipping sauces sauce as well too if we did like mix sauces too if you want to I sure am once it's my right

[00:09:12] I was I was putting 95% of the time like thinking like panicking about my favorite dipping sauce and five So in the time think about what I was gonna say about my show so

[00:09:19] Here we go. Um, yeah, my name is Eric guests also guests is my actual last middle name So all the jokes fly please just comment your favorite one I've heard all of them if you can come up with one that I haven't heard I would be really impressed

[00:09:33] But I host the show called in lockables which I build as the story of video games the people who play them in the memories made along the way And I started off kind of interviewing different content creators about the video game podcasts

[00:09:44] They made and just why they love games so much we just kind of came on and talk about their favorite games and Recently with my life got a little bit more busy. I kind of took a more solo approach and just kind of

[00:09:55] Started exploring a little bit more scripted stuff and writing some stuff and and It's when I started my big a kingdom heart series that I'm I'm still in the middle of that's been

[00:10:03] Is now at 19 episodes and almost 32 hours of content about that entire series. So yeah, it's it's very exhaustive And I may have lost just a twinge of my sanity doing it

[00:10:15] But I think now the best way I can describe my show and I think I think Josh Cole from still loading Described in my favorite way says I try to get at the emotional core of

[00:10:26] What video games try to tell us is kind of like an art form is a storytelling form Really kind of trying to take that angle with it because

[00:10:33] We just we had there's so much discourse in the video game industry about no console wars and this I like this game

[00:10:39] And you know like my game your stupid and I just kind of tried to talk about the games that I love and and just put out there What I think they mean and what they meant to me and maybe just spark a different conversation from that angle

[00:10:49] So that's kind of what I've been doing and It's been it's been it's been great and It's been really rewarding so far to meet a critical people such as yourselves dipping sauce I Don't know man

[00:11:04] If you have at least three you can do three if you want I think it nearly sounds a two so my if my wife was on the show She's the sauce queen she would have several sauces picked up

[00:11:14] My my fridge is constantly filled with all the sauces that she has Too much variety for for my palette I either probably have to go with we have chick-fil-a sauce in the house. Which is pretty good

[00:11:26] I also I my secondary I have to agree with Matt just regular like straight up barbecue Can't go wrong been a favorite of mine for for a long long long time and I'm

[00:11:38] I don't know if this counts as a dipping sauce, but I'm I'm a really strong catch-up guy Like with fries classic chicken nuggets All that stuff I love ketchup except if I'm

[00:11:48] Used to live in Chicago five for five years so if you tried to put ketchup on your hot dog I will You get fish spicy mustard that's the only except people thing you put on a hot dog

[00:11:57] Yeah, some ralussian and we just load it up with everything and check out except except ketchup is it's not allowed if you don't ask me why I don't know you will be judged very harshly They fit even comes near that hot dog Immediately equip your fists

[00:12:11] Give ready to find Somebody will pop out of the nearest manhole sewer and just smack it out of your hand You all right though my favorite thing for whenever whenever I have like chicken or anything else

[00:12:23] I like to mix barbecue and honey mustard like that just who just hits rolled up for a man So good honey mustard's not real mustard. Sorry. Oh, oh, what it's just but it's so good Yeah, no, I mean I don't like these almost either

[00:12:40] I prefer spicy brown mustard that's just like a classic you know can't can't beat it But mixing sounds interesting. I don't know that I would have picked those two to mix and I feel like but I feel like if you're mixing honey mustard and barbecue sauce

[00:12:52] You're kind of leaning towards that the more like Fruppy barbecue sauce is out there too. It's like approaching that for a profile, but Look you do you let's do a diet. That's true

[00:13:04] Seracha and honey mustard is also really good and that's that's a great one as well too But video games. Yeah, we're talking about a pin and video game mechanics

[00:13:13] Like I think we're to all that little bit over. We're gonna do the discord Q&A here in just a sec We'll we'll take a real quick break listen to some tunes. We'll be right back

[00:14:00] And we're back. We had the same of the show discord Q&A I asked my discord server Question related to the topic the answer that question and then we read the answers and that's the segment

[00:14:11] I asked what are some abandoned game mechanics that your glad or rub what are some abandoned game mechanics that you're gone? Oh my gosh What are some abandoned game mechanics that your glad or gone or that you miss?

[00:14:25] To which the enthusiast Jeff he immediately came in and says mechanics I miss is the auto skip for battles on RPGs The variables much higher than the enemy. I'm referring to earthbound. Yes Every RP every turn based RPG should have that. I don't know why other ones didn't

[00:14:40] Thank you. It's actually not expired. It came back very recently in the second of the like a dragon RPGs The newest one I mean for wealth when you're a high enough level as the battle starts you can hit a think the right tricker and then you'll just like

[00:14:59] Each of you model swing is about a couple times they'll fall over and then you move on so Yeah, I want to say too and I've been playing persona five Royale recently and I can clear my mentors too if you're just high enough level and you

[00:15:11] Run into him with your your capital bill. Feel this it'll just kill him So that yeah, I've seen it recently, but yeah, but it's not common. No no earthbound was a great early example of that That is cool who's uh who's got the next one from Dave?

[00:15:26] I'll do that one Dave from the incredible N64 podcast remember 64 Which Aaron recently was on a wave race episode which was great because more people need to talk about how great wave race 64 is like I get read

[00:15:40] I get so many weird looks, but like I'm so happy that I think was the retro hangover guys covered it and you as covered it and like It's such a good racing game and everyone's like oh it's jet skis. It's dumb

[00:15:51] It's not it's actually one of the best games on the N64 Which is thank you Matt Oh, I Yeah, I played it for the first time side tangent for this or last year

[00:16:02] I played it for the first time in 2020 three-year of our lord now is blown away by it. Yeah It's brilliant it's a brilliant brilliant. I think but anyway Dave has to say it works for some older games

[00:16:12] But only being able to save in a particular safe point sometimes hours apart is kind of poop And I do agree I think like like I know why Reseneval did it in the older games and it makes sense

[00:16:24] But I think having an auto save now especially survival horror Persicians I'm bad at them Is super useful Like yeah, you know the class car PG thing too like I can picture the final fantasy seven safe point right the little like weird seashape thing

[00:16:39] Like I get why games did that but I'm glad that now most games have a auto save or specific safe points Or you can save anywhere on the the map because they are kind of poop as Dave said

[00:16:51] I think my favorite safe point ever and this is kind of biased because I just really fucking love final fantasy nine But I missed the moubles as the safe point so the And then you clicked save and he's like they're perfect

[00:17:05] And then yeah, it's a hard perfect but I will admit that when I played it for the first time on So I'd played it on the PlayStation whenever finished it when I finished it for the first time on the switch

[00:17:14] By the end of the game the animation was just a little too long Yeah, like if they'd sped it up it'd be perfect but because it's like it's you go open the book

[00:17:22] So the book down flight it like it just it took a little too long every time but it is one of the best save Things in any video game because those moucles are some of the best moucles in final fantasy

[00:17:35] Agreed on the tap if I could offer an example on the the flip side of that One of the most agriaches examples I think of like that early saving system where it's kind of annoying is crash bandicoot

[00:17:45] Oh, we're I don't remember the original crash bandicoot where you had you have to find like all of his like girlfriend tokens in the level and then you used to have to do the many level

[00:17:53] And then you'd be able to save oh my god, so if you didn't find the tokens and you could go like several levels without finding tokens So yeah, that was a very questionable decision in that really crash game with the With with Matt and the

[00:18:08] Playing it on my head to the mougle hops up and it's just like come on And then like with every second that counts down both like that mougle like flying down for the buggy like place. Oh my god Like yeah, oh my gosh

[00:18:27] Erics got the next one yeah, yeah, yeah, I have one here from Bill with the EGNC podcast network shout out to Bill bunch of great shows that he does

[00:18:38] He says I'm really glad that the concept of lives and games particularly platform is just starting to be phased out It really lowers the frustration level with a more challenging game

[00:18:47] Yep, it's why I will never feel bad about using safe states under old game like I recently replayed to Merlin Which is a classic and actually really holds up

[00:18:55] But it only holds up because I don't know if they worry about lives because they just save state the shit out of it because I can't Exactly can't like don't he con country also one of my all-time favorites

[00:19:03] But I think I only still like it because I can save state and like I don't have to worry about losing running out of lives

[00:19:10] Cause yeah, running out of lives is I think the newest crash band it could to the best that the real fourth game in the series Had two modes it had a hardcore mode where you had lives and like you could run out of lives

[00:19:22] Gonna game over and then it had a like a mode where you had no lives and in fact you had a death counter And I think on one of the late last levels in that game I had like over 100 deaths before finishing the game

[00:19:33] Because you know crashes notoriously hard, but that's so much better right like flip it make it a death counter Instead and you could like you know Celeste also sort of has that where you can like see how many times you've failed or lost on a stage

[00:19:44] Like I think that's so much better than wasting our time with lives Yeah, and like yeah Celeste super meat boy Did it really really well too because I'm gonna get to the end of a stage

[00:19:54] You can see like all the little use running around the stage dying at different points and it's so cool There was another example I had in my head Oh, was it I forget let's move on Holy cow firebird 01952 Andrew he says I'm mechanic that is dying

[00:20:13] But I want to stay longer is loot boxes everything is a battle pass. I want my loot boxes agree I It's controversial but I agree like Overwatch was way better when I had loot boxes and not fucking battle passes all the time Like it's gambling sure, but

[00:20:31] One it's free and then two you actually had at these in chance of getting something cool for free Yeah, I would agree that I think loot boxes in the way that Overwatch one specifically did it I liked you know

[00:20:45] But it does get exploited after a while like the way the most recent battle front did their loot boxes was really weird and Like yeah, I think Also no one's gonna do a battle pass as good as fortnight does just because fortnight is kind of perfected it

[00:20:59] You know, and I am not a fortnight hater. I have actually really enjoyed my time playing it But it's like you buy the battle pass and then every so often you unlock a thing and then there are other bonus

[00:21:07] Quests you can do it on lock other things and I think they do it really well and everyone else since Which tried to do a battle pass it just kind of falls flat. I mean most famously very recently with the two sides

[00:21:18] God game which was a lot of service game that was kind of doomed from the beginning and it's a bummer because I love that studio But yeah, I agree that loot boxes can be really great

[00:21:29] I think the problem is is that then companies like EA and activation were like well, what if we made them worse and Then you had to pay more money

[00:21:39] And I think like games like fortnight do a they think like an extra step further too because like I think in fortnight You can kind of make back some of the the

[00:21:48] Makeback some of the premium currency you used to buy that battle pass in the first place and put that toward the next one or something like that Is that is that right?

[00:21:56] Yeah, you can never get your full amount but I think you can get like a third or half depending on what you choose because like I think two of the

[00:22:05] Eight rewards at each level of the battle pass are just V-box and you could just get them back and yeah, no It's you know they want you to spend money, but it's not I don't think it's as exploitative as a lot of the other ones are

[00:22:17] I think I think another Modern example of a well done battle pass to is halo infinite because my understanding too is that once you like fire

[00:22:25] Purchase the battle pass it doesn't go away with the season you always have access to it and you can come back and lock the stuff on it Like at any time so like they don't take away from you

[00:22:33] So if like five seasons you're like oh I want unlock the stuff from season two You can get it and work on it. So I think that's a that's a cool way, but yeah

[00:22:40] I would say nothing I played overwatch in its heyday or during the that like loot box era And they always give you enough currency or like enough level ups or enough like

[00:22:48] Objective to do where you are getting loot boxes like every couple of matches and yeah, you didn't have to spend the money like if you just played it a Little bit of time you could get like the event skins or that kind of stuff that was going on

[00:23:00] So yeah, it's definitely become Definitely become a little a little bit more predatory as it's become just some more accepted practice. That's for sure No shout out to you geomaster duo because I'm a you geos Yeah, master duo has a dual pass

[00:23:14] That's actually really fucking cool because it costs like a really meager amount of gems that you can you can make back on the The dual pass and also they give out gems for free all the goddamn time for like everything so hey

[00:23:28] Ben, no I must have been an amko Konami kind of is doing something right but also not Yeah, yeah, I would say also really quick mtg arena gives you a lot of free boosters and I'm a magic the gathering sick

[00:23:42] It's like you go one way or the other right it's either it's a fork in every road for every nerd It's either you geo or magic and I went the magic route though a lot of respect to you geo

[00:23:50] I know a lot of folks who love it, but they also give you like free boosters and Whatever the currency is and stuff too they make it really accessible

[00:24:00] All right, I guess we can move on to Jake from game corp it's all on cap. So I felt like need to some drama Beautiful, but thank you dedicated safe stations with no quicksavability and saves as consumable

[00:24:13] Are truly the worst I forgot about saves is like consumable items I sort of mentioned it before those evil typewriter Game that doesn't either save consistently or let me save when I want is a game I'll never go back to so

[00:24:27] Similar to what Dave was saying yeah, I mean I think for me one of my favorite games that has one of the worst save systems is Mass Effect the original thankfully the

[00:24:35] legendary dishes versions are better but the audio the audio the auto save was so bad in the first game that like I would sometimes forget

[00:24:43] And lose hours of progress because I hadn't just manually saved in the auto saves saves like when you enter a planet or when you Like go to a city for the first time and you're there for hours. Yeah, it's

[00:24:56] I like a good auto save if you have an auto save that only happens like it's certain like Didn't auto save if I remember correctly like for a lot of like xbox 360 rs stuff was like

[00:25:05] When you entered an area it would save and then whatever you did in that open area if you didn't manually save you could like lose all of that stuff Yeah, I think in uh one of the most like

[00:25:17] Recent or not recent but like first examples I could remember of that stuff was like playing a skyrim And the skyrim it was like anytime you like went into a building or like a cave or something

[00:25:25] Yeah, that's when it would auto save but oh yeah, yeah, yeah, it's been like four hours walking around in that cave And like didn't like change locations or something and you would just die and be like auto checkpoint

[00:25:35] To that started that cave and have to go through it all over again. Yeah, to fall out problem too fall Vegas fall New Vegas one of my favorite fall games you if you're wandering the wasteland for hours just to like find loot or like find side quests

[00:25:47] Or you know level up and then you haven't gone to a town for a while and you die you lose like That's what I just sneaks up behind you. Yeah every time

[00:25:55] Man leave it leave it till like remasters and remakes to get that shit right cuz like another one of my favorite games I guess and then the shimigami ten say series shimigami ten say strange journey the original version of the DS is so fucking like unfair

[00:26:11] Like difficulty wise and then When you're in like dungeons and shit you cannot manual save you have to hope and pray you come across a little save pod But then we made it for the 3DS and they were like hey, you can save anywhere

[00:26:25] Thank you, it's like yes, yes, I Think oh yeah, yeah, it's your extra my bad. Oh yes, so next up we have we just had Jake next up We have a love community member Thrac in several of our discord's also has a great show

[00:26:43] Default inverted camera controls find for flying games but not anything else. Yes God damn a great I would argue that I don't even like them for flying games I know that's kind of I want uninverted in my star fox 64

[00:26:57] Although it does always still take me a minute to get used to because I think our brains just the way they're wired But yeah any time Cameras inverted for no reason in like a third person game. I'm like why why would you do this to me?

[00:27:10] I don't who who are you who are these inverted camera control people and We that we should Know who they are because they're weird. They need to be barred from society like who

[00:27:21] Who who plays who plays a fortnight who who plays a fortnight and like they're panicking and they're like Running and shooting and panicking and then they're like I need to aim up better better push the stick down Some stupid shit. I don't know

[00:27:37] Doesn't it I have to I have to give some mad props the inverted players because in the hey They grown up with like halo and when I was in college we played a lot of like cross dorm halo three

[00:27:46] There were some just insane people that played on inverted and they were just ridiculously good at the game So hey, I got to give you mad props if you're willing to commit to that and get good at like that I mean you're on another level

[00:27:58] Yeah, I guess that's fair. Yeah, Adam revival in extinction He says tank controls not being able to save anywhere unlimited lives Yeah, and limited lives is other subvention above yes tank wool Uh-huh

[00:28:11] So yeah, kind of torn on that a little bit. Yeah, so like tank controls are as in the original reasonable for Which I loved I thought what like the planting and shooting tank controls because you can kind of move pretty freely

[00:28:24] Otherwise I didn't mine however when I played the remake which was incredible I've liked that it was standard controls and there wasn't tank controls but like I try I like I just I can't

[00:28:37] In signalless you start I think with tank controls and then you can change it and I had to change it like immediately like I couldn't I can't I don't know I couldn't do tank controls there. I know it adds to like the survival harx

[00:28:48] The variants which I get I totally understand like the panic it makes feel more real But I am already a bad shot without any other hindrance. I don't need the tank controls to make it worse

[00:28:58] Master yeah, I guess I'm glad that like a but most games nowadays at least have the option to switch to tank controls if you want and Yeah, yeah, but you know fuck limited lives though for sure. Yeah, yeah, I can never say that's bad enough times

[00:29:15] I don't think I ever I I I understand tank controls is like a like a conscious design trace like I recently played the first resident evil last year and yeah, I could understand how that would would make it more scary in In times of panic I guess

[00:29:30] I guess growing up I just didn't have enough exposure to like games with tank controls in them To like really form like a opinion one way or the other like I played a lot of platformers in Mario and Pokemon grown up so

[00:29:42] I just I missed a lot of the tanky control stuff so I don't have you know Yeah, but I'm it sounds like most people are glad that we're mostly past them

[00:29:51] Yeah, I think as an option it makes total sense. I just as a default I less like the inverted control people See you out there Next is a damn ascend from bar silence another incredible podcast

[00:30:05] Cheek codes or reward of cheats after meeting the game as incentives to keep playing boy. How do you do I miss this so much so To share something

[00:30:16] To share something infuriating that I'd forgotten about because we're so far from that era even though I grew up in it So I played the I felt I loved remedy since I played control for the first time which was only a year or so

[00:30:26] I per came out and then I went back to play down in Lake. I've since played down Lake too Of course when it came out and but I never played there on other games so I'm slowly making my way through the back

[00:30:35] I so I picked up quantum break. I haven't played it yet and I I Legally acquired the max paying games on my team deck and so I For legal reasons I legally acquired them and so I was playing the first max pain

[00:30:50] And I love that game. I think it's incredible. I think it's cheesy I really love it, but there are these platforming sections where you're like walking along like a blood trail and trying not fall off it into the abyss. It's like a hallucination and

[00:31:01] kept dying on it over and over again in the check there are no checkpoints if they get through this long bad thing And so mad and then I realized I think the stage before the end of the game that this game had cheat codes was a rockstar game

[00:31:16] They all had cheat codes and you could turn on like no like no dot deaths or like you know And finish it in fin and health or in fin and ammo whatever else and I was like

[00:31:26] Only learning this now and of course it doesn't affect anything you still get the same ending like it they were cheats in the same way that the Damien's talking about here and like so mad at myself because I went both in the game without using the cheats

[00:31:39] And I was like, oh, I couldn't use these But I recently replayed golden i64 I didn't finish it, but like that also a big headmo decamode You know all that stuff like I love those those kinds of cheats that just add to the experience of the best

[00:31:53] or the um the cheats that unlock secret characters like like not necessarily like unlock all cheats But like characters that are hidden behind a cheat code like those those were really really cool back in the day

[00:32:05] Like the Tony Hawk games had some of the stuff. I was just thinking of those yeah spider man Wolverine Oh, I'm a shrek just cuz yes, right So body

[00:32:17] It really was um man that's just that's not the last of cheats codes that's the death of an entire era because I when I moved out of my house for the first time

[00:32:26] Five or six years ago I was cleaning out my stuff and going through like a bin of my old like game stuff downstairs

[00:32:32] I found like the old notebook that I used to have that I used to like write go on the internet and write the cheat codes in

[00:32:37] For the video games like little flip notebook that I had you go to I was like super cheats calm and go through and and write everything on there And one of the games I remember most prolific that was game called mercenaries play around the destruction

[00:32:49] Yeah, or I would just unlock all the vehicles and like get infinite money So you just call like all the air strikes just cause mayhem and pandemonium and

[00:32:57] Really I was doing some research on that this this afternoon because that was one of the ones I that I thought of and We've really lost cheat codes as a result of like the the first inclusion of like achievements and trophies who video

[00:33:09] Yeah, because because because cheat codes essentially break that that premise of like oh I can get the platinum trophy. Well, that's really easy if you just are invincible have god mode and And basically break the game so

[00:33:21] I mean I get it. I don't I don't fall achievements or trophies or anything I know people love that and Whatever, but yeah, we we lost something to have achievements and trovents

[00:33:31] Yeah, I think that so actually there's a current game that I'm playing that goes bucks right against that Which is another crap treasure which has been delightful and it has a wonderful accessibility menu for first time

[00:33:42] Souls like players or people who can't handle the difficulty or just need accessibility options And they have a bunch of the standard stuff like increase the parry the parry window increase the dodge Inventability frames

[00:33:53] Take less damage do more damage and enemies have less health and then they have the best cheat of all the best Accessibility option of all which is give krill the main character a gun and what it does is create a shell

[00:34:06] That's just a handgun and when you equip it it one shots any enemy bosses non-rassas and So first of all, it's brilliant because they were trying it was like the tears the kingdom like

[00:34:19] Rising thing was a dev tool and then they gave it to you. This is the same thing They created the gun as a gag was a dev tool allow them to one shot bosses and they're like well Why don't we just let people use it if they want?

[00:34:30] And so I wanted to try it and so I used it on a boss and still got the achievement on steam And I was like this is how you do that's a kill. I killed the boss with this gun and I didn't penalize me

[00:34:38] That's the I still did the thing It's cool who are you to judge you gave me the gun? I use the gun And I love that I think that my biggest the biggest thing I hate about the loss of cheats also is yeah

[00:34:51] Like we do the trophies and you penalize people using these cheats to get the trophies but like That's what they're there for Yeah, another way to play the game. It's like the people used to get mad at me

[00:35:01] When I played Elden Ring because I found the like there's a like a giant kami-hami-ahabla Essentially that you can get as a Mage I think it was Mage That if you like Find a teleporter you can kind of like circumvent some stuff and get it really early

[00:35:16] It'll be some bosses really easily and people like oh you're cheating. I'm like it's in the game And the teleporter is in a chest in the game like I didn't hack anything. It's in the game

[00:35:27] Not cheating. Yeah, it's definitely not cheating. Yeah, we'll back you up. We got you Okay looks like I got is this the last one yeah, yeah, so judge bread first and peace rights Right Judge bread

[00:35:42] Right sin MVP baseball 2005 had an anger meter where you would argue with an unpause I'm pire depending on the call you are arguing at your level of anger It could pump up your team or embarrass them It's never been in any other baseball game as far as I

[00:35:56] No, that didn't be saying I love funny I would you know I would love to see more stuff like that in sports games. That's that I remember I remember when I I used to still play

[00:36:08] MBA 2K and it was when the Xbox one had been out and you know the connect was bundled with it And I remember

[00:36:17] The connect plug in I remember I was playing a game and I like the messed up when I was like oh fuck or something like that And the connect hurt it and they call the technical file on me in the game because

[00:36:27] The connect hurt it so yeah, just I just think they fun just so I think anger meter in baseball They should bring that back and we'll be the show if you're listening. Yeah, like let's go like

[00:36:37] Maybe your guy gets so mad that you don't have control of it. He charges the mound. I don't know Love the love the concept of charging the mound. He just gets so pissed off of the picture

[00:36:46] You're like you know what fuck you you just charge him and just annihilate Oh baseball is so cool I think you can kind of expand that concept to into like I know

[00:36:59] Some organs are for have done like insanity meters and stuff like that. Yeah, I was just gonna bring that up. Yeah. Oh well I can let's take it away Matthew. No, no, but yeah last Reckway and what was um

[00:37:09] Eternal darkness last Reckway. I'm for the game cube one of the best horror games ever made Middley I don't have a ton. I'm only now getting really into survival our games

[00:37:18] But I love that game and it had insanity meter where as it went up different things would happen and literally the things were to mess with the player Not the game like the old analog TVs would have these like volume bars these green volume bars

[00:37:33] And so like the volume would start to go down And you'd be like what the hell or like you would walk into a bathroom and you'd see your character dead and

[00:37:40] Tapicated in the in the bathtub and then the screen would happen and then flash back to normal or Like like old TVs also had like input channels. We still have that for like HD stuff and like the input would change

[00:37:52] And it would go to like snow like a snowy like unhooked up TV Here's your monsters coming with the hell or like it would say controller just connected and you wouldn't be able to move

[00:38:01] Things like that it was the best and like as your insanity meter went up like they got worse I'd love did. I thought it was one of the coolest things my favorite one that game does is Like it'll act like

[00:38:13] It'll act like the game like the game cube itself reset and Oh, yeah, you're safe. It'll be like I forget if it's either crept it or it's just not there Crap yeah, it's crept it. Yeah, yeah, it's crept it like yeah

[00:38:25] It like literally reeds starts the game as if you like hit the reset button They mess with you so much. It was the best make that a c'mon what's that? What's that? Visual novel or like looks like it deletes like your files or whatever like the horror one

[00:38:39] I don't he don't he literally yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's stuff is so cool Love that let's it for that discord Q and a thanks everybody who wrote in Listeners are gonna get your your answers

[00:38:52] Run on the show and you want to hear me fuck up reading like 8000 times in the row Please don't please join the discord server Yeah, we take another break and we'll be back We'll go on with our picks with our picks of the band of game mechanics Yeah

[00:39:10] And we're back the first one that I have that I'm very very glad is gone is Having having to write down like passwords instead of saving like back on the NES and and like early Sega Genesis in SNES days Fuck that

[00:39:57] That's so terrible like Metroid in particular on the NES Probably one of the most like archaic and hard to play games ever You can't save you have to write down this jumbled mess of like letters and numbers to save the game and that sucks, but

[00:40:13] So glad it's gone Yeah, the one I remember from my childhood is a Mega Man games had a password system I was just thinking Mega Man games. Yeah, yeah, like Mega Man 2

[00:40:22] I think have these like dots in a grid and then I think it was either Mega Man 3 or 4 had like character faces that you had to remember and like I just and this is before So extra that too

[00:40:32] Yeah, yeah, and I'll do that all the people who are yelling at the podcast like oh you just take a photo of it We didn't have camera phones back then. Yeah, we didn't even have digital film back then Should get the old code echo or

[00:40:46] Or write it down on pen and paper Which yeah, I mean, I know is it's hard to imagine now writing stuff down what why do Yeah, I'm like why are you wasting our expensive film taking pictures of the TV? Yeah

[00:40:59] Well, I think the Walmart to get the bell up Wait 30 minutes in line Oh my god I spin up of this is like now whenever a game like shows a clue on the wall like very

[00:41:11] Explicently like you're gonna have to remember a pattern for later on. I never bother I just take a screenshot All right take a photo with my phone like a camp father name right in this down get out of here

[00:41:20] What do you take me for it's like in the persona games like for all of persona five royal Which I finished last year. I had the classroom answers I can't remember the name of the journalist who wrote like put the did the guide for that

[00:41:32] But like I shouted him out once I beat the game because it was like thank you for all the classroom answers I'm not in school anymore I'm not trying to figure this shit out. I'm just gonna pull up a list of answers get adding

[00:41:43] I got shit to do Same I'll be honest. I've done that to so saying I'm right there with yeah Thank you. Thank you. Yeah, I'm glad I'm glad the whole password nonsense is gone get out of here

[00:41:57] To take us in a different direction talking about something that I do miss it's in the vein of cheats But I miss buttonpad inputs as cheat codes so like The most famous one the Konami code for up down up down left right left right BA

[00:42:13] Flexed art or BA be a select start the new total game and contra Love the Konami code and like every game that you did it in It did something you in contra. You got either 30 lives or 99 lives and the turtles games

[00:42:28] I think you got a level select or more lives like it always gave you something in every Konami game And then in for an axe came out a few years ago, which I loved did a play on that

[00:42:39] Where if you did the Konami code and in for an axe it turned the lead character and what was a essentially Castlevania two style game like side scrolling action game into a contra character

[00:42:50] It was the same character like head but he was wearing like the kind of the contra body with like the Strapping chest and the gun and you could just run around shooting

[00:42:57] And there's this whole separate set of cutscenes and gameplay for the controversial game. It's amazing. It's the best secret I'm as um when you said the Controller inputs is cheats. I immediately went to

[00:43:10] Grantop.dot o like San Andreas my brother and I played San Andreas a lot we would always take turns do Basically just like seeing how long we could survive the police and stuff Yeah, and we were like no cheats like no cheats sets that's

[00:43:26] That's the stupid no and uh yeah One of us would eventually just break and be like okay, I need a tank or like I need it Yeah, and thus I think it's still one of them. I forget which weapon she did is but it's like

[00:43:39] It's like L11 or R12 L12 left down right up left down down left and yeah, that's good exactly which one that was but Yeah, the

[00:43:51] Shout out to Grantop.dot o old Grantop.dot o I think you can still do cheats in Grantop.dot o five but it like messes everything up so Yeah, so I looked at I looked at up because I was I was thinking about that too

[00:44:02] The cheats in Grantop.dot o five are like numbers on the cell phone that you call and so Socialist of like cell phone numbers. So yeah, not as good as like the button the button name But it's and yeah, I think it does like mess up the game

[00:44:15] And I'm sure that only works in the single player because That would just be chaos on the player's eye for sure Anybody calling in tank although I'm sure anybody still playing that team now

[00:44:25] 10 years later is just like has infinite money and is there ever do that anyway? So right So that's what they should do on when they launch GTA six the last day of GTA five

[00:44:37] It should just unlock GTA online give everybody cheat codes and just laugh everybody just go ham Yes, that would really Just imagine a game where like it's just free and open like Grantop.dot o online But yeah, you can enter cheats so it's just this constant like

[00:44:55] chaotic free for all of everybody against everybody with Whatever they had possible that'd be so cool like everybody's got attack helicopters or tanks and like everybody's on infinite ammo All yes, everybody would also have like infinite health or something to so I doesn't make any sense

[00:45:10] Somebody go next Yeah, I'll take it Similar vein to to Matt here. I thought of one that I did miss this is a more recent one But one that seems to be seems to be gone

[00:45:23] Ever since the games it was in ever have come out and I'm talking of course about the nemesis system in shadow of mortar and shadow of war This was something that I I really loved

[00:45:33] I thought shadow of mortar was an amazing game. I'm a huge Lord of the Rings fan Shadow of war actually didn't finish just because I got sober and doubt on that game and how much like

[00:45:42] There's just so much like triple a open world stuff put it at that point where I was just like I cannot Physically do all this I am tired, but the nemesis system was this really cool way that

[00:45:54] The lead orcs of the area would interact with with your character Italian and it was it created these amazing Emergent gameplay moments where it was like Like I remember like one time clearly like you can help the orcs like betray each other move up and power

[00:46:09] And like take out certain orcs and that you can brainwash some of them and like make him infiltrate like the army ranks like all this like amazing stuff Like create your own emergent story and I just remember like playing one time and like I went to

[00:46:21] Help and orc like like in his dual like overthrow another orc and then like a guy Thought who was my buddy like showed up to betray me and then like another guy showed up because you had like a deathband that

[00:46:32] I came back from the dead because he had like vengeance against me to like come and kill me and then one of like my buddies Like came to like try and save me so like

[00:46:39] Eight different people showed up at like this one battle that like triggered all the same time and just created like this 45 minute like Battle where like everybody was showing up and I was just thinking like unfortunately that system is now

[00:46:52] Painted by Warner Brothers. Nobody else can use it Assassin's Creed Odyssey tried to do something like mercenary system like similar to it, but it's a definitely a water dump version

[00:47:02] But I was just thinking like how many amazing games that could be like applied to like I was just thinking off top of my head like a

[00:47:07] Batman game would be so cool something like that just thinking or like a mafia or like some kind of like mafia crime game or something like that

[00:47:15] I think it's a system that could it has a potential for like a lot of emerging story a lot of emerging gameplay and it's just a shame that Warner Bros Just be like oh we're gonna keep this first. I'll just I mean I understand but

[00:47:25] Shadow war was 2017 like seven years ago and they haven't done anything with that technology since so This is kind of a bummer so yeah, I just wanted to shot that out because I really I really enjoyed the Nemesis system despite however people feel about those two games

[00:47:39] No my favorite moments from that goddamn system. I've never finished the first game because of this exact reason So there was one do why kept dying to over and over and over and over and over and like eventually He just became immune to fucking everything I had

[00:47:55] The key was immune to was it he was immune to to the bow or the bow He's immune to sword. He was immune to being stunned you could not sneak up on it stealth did not work on him

[00:48:07] He was immune to fucking everything so I was like how am I supposed to get anywhere if this guy is constantly popping out of nowhere I've every god damn nook and cranny in this world like what am I supposed to do and

[00:48:18] Yeah, after like like four deaths against him being impervious to everything I just gave up. I was like the system is cool, but also fuck it

[00:48:27] Hey, I am so glad to hear I'm not the only person who have this exact experience because it's why I never finished the first game either

[00:48:33] Yeah, like one guy became like unbeatable and like I just I might just was ramming my head into a wall trying to get past this part And I was like you know what I give up and I don't even remember if they're difficulty settings in that game

[00:48:46] But I didn't even care to try I was just like I'm done this is dumb. I hate this Definitely would lead you some of those robots and I think a little tweaking would be definitely be necessary But yeah, I just I really like to like I said

[00:48:58] I'm a big fan of like emerging gameplay and like the gameplay and the story that you tell through playing the game yourself And that's this newscrete so many of those things like remember in shadow of war when you can set up your guys

[00:49:07] I like the little fortresses like one of my fortress leaders was like the bard or who'd like sing in recite poetry And then another fortress leader was like the drunkenst or of like all of them

[00:49:16] He's just like slurring his words like not to leave it all and I was just like I'm gonna fight him all the way up the ranks to be like in charge of this area for me

[00:49:23] So just stupid stuff like that, but I think with like some tweaks and stuff There's a lot of like really awesome potential for a different game seduces like I said a bad man game with that implement. It would be so cool

[00:49:32] That'd be super cool man. They they kind of Why said in kind of a panel, but there was there might be of that one I think it was Arkham City where you're you're fighting almost said ice man for your fighting Mr. Freeze

[00:49:45] And every time you beat him with something He would do become impervious to it like if you if you did like a sneak attack on them You'd be like nope. I've got a camera on the back of my helmet now. You can't beat me. Oh, yeah

[00:49:57] I think yep, Arkham City. Yes, so in Arkham asylum you when I think you fight him and so as silent Also maybe not maybe only Arkham City But yeah, when you fight him He learns like from everything that you do and so you need to do

[00:50:12] A camera for it was just new game plaster was the first time you fought him also, but yeah one of the versions of the fight with him like he'll if you use the grenade

[00:50:20] Then he's a pervice to explosions or he reaches through the wall and grabs you. Yeah, like I thought was really cool Because it's like he's learning which is just weird and neat

[00:50:29] Weird need my my next one was one that I'm so very dearly we only got really got like a taste of this kind of was a

[00:50:37] destructible environments in games. Yeah, I think it mostly yeah, mostly started on like the the 360 ps2 era with like with the gorilla games and In the game black that was really really fucking sweet Then then I think yeah, you have battlefield did it

[00:50:56] I can't think of any other ones that my favorite one was Hulk ultimate destruction on the Xbox 360 God, you can smash cars You can build things you could breathe take buildings down like it was big so it was based on the Ednorton movie

[00:51:09] And I think he even provided the voice for which was really fascinating and it was like an original story as well And it was yeah, you could run around and literally destroy anything in the city

[00:51:21] It was amazing. It was the best Hulk game they ever made you can make like the boxing gloves at a car parts like it was just

[00:51:28] It was the best Hulk game ever made and it like Wolverine origins and a few other games are stuck on the 360 ps3 environment

[00:51:36] And we can never play them again, and it's just such a bummer because they were some of the best license games because they were just they just tried shit It was great shout out to a terminal sonata still stuck in the 360 Yes, three

[00:51:48] Yeah, I think immediately of I think bad company was bad feel bad Yeah, that's a great one and then a red faction Yes, he's another one that had the destructive environments. So yeah, you figured they would be able to do that

[00:52:02] You know that technology's gotten better, but hey everything being destructible is a very resource heavy on a game that some games already struggle to maintain frame rates So oh, yeah, I said the gorilla games

[00:52:15] I meant red faction my bad. I was thinking of red faction gorilla. I think it's what I was oh Between between us we got it. We got we right in there Yeah, I think the only game that's come close in my experience has been

[00:52:29] Control and I don't think everything's destructible But like a lot of it is especially once you start using telekinesis and levitate You can like throw lots of alcohols and throw stuff but like I don't think everything's destructive war

[00:52:40] If it is like it would take a long time it's not designed for mass destruction But like the environment's definitely are pretty destructible But not in that like same way where the game is designed for you to smash everything

[00:52:52] Yeah, like when they announced the multiplayer for crackdown three They were like you can't destroy fucking anything and then the game came out and there will like you can't No, it was bad game such a bummer because I loved crackdown to yes

[00:53:05] It was such a good game the first one was so I played so much of that fucking game So my friends were so excited for the third one to have multiplayer and like and then it just tanked

[00:53:18] Yeah such disappointment that game it couldn't have been so great like all they had to do was get the multiplayer right and make it destructible and it would have been fine and they just they screwed up I think for my next one. It's a little meta

[00:53:32] So my the game mechanic that I miss most is split screen local co Like especially split screen like because like so border I think I think I told this on our xbox or 60 episode But borderlands the original game

[00:53:48] I never played with a full screen me and my friend Katie played through the entire game split screen and it was the best it was so much fun Like online co-op I like playing with friends online

[00:54:00] Especially since a lot of my friends have moved away and so we're not in the same place but like there's something about that split screen So I in my first apartment living on my own I had a

[00:54:12] I think it was 60 inch tube TV so it was like my massive Master Q TV oh, yeah, no We practically threw it down the stairs to get it out but when we got it in the first thing we did was play halo

[00:54:28] I think it was halo 3 split screen multiplayer because then I felt like everybody had their own TV Because it was so big But like I love split screen split screen Mario cards split screen like come on battle in Maricard 64 doing a four-way battle was the best

[00:54:49] Yeah, they just don't do split screen anymore or very often like I'm I don't know if balder's gate three Has split screen. I know what has I think it has local co does but not on series s

[00:55:03] Because there's such a little wimp apparently. Yeah, remember that yeah, but like I love the Lego games like you would you could play multiplayer and then if you ran in this Opsit direction eventually the game would split let screen would split and you could go off wherever

[00:55:16] Yeah, I missed split screen so bad. I just think it was such a great way to play Multiplayer games together and gave folks their own real estate So you didn't work stuck on the screen together like in the new sonic superstars game which is just Bad multiplayer

[00:55:31] This destroy all humans had a really yeah kind of because it was all I think I think it was all vertical split screen

[00:55:39] So you didn't have a whole lot of like your your cone of vision was very limited but it was still really really fun to just run around with Just run around with like a what are the weapons again the zappy one the anal probe

[00:55:51] And I forget what any of the other ones were but yeah, that was such a fun game to co up through Yeah, I was tradition of between me my friends So we beat all the original all the halo threes are halo two

[00:56:03] We played halo one halo two and halo three split screen on the hardest difficulties Al campaign all the way through and beat them legendary and then we beat all the gears workings on 360

[00:56:13] Hardest difficulty split screen. I that was just true when no one of those games came out that was just like Trish him for us. So some we did that were just like we're in a hunker down it's gonna be a miserable night

[00:56:21] We're gonna die a lot. We're gonna drink and have fun doing it like let's just let's just power through and Yeah, not just split screen but that that

[00:56:29] Losing the aspects of playing with people in the room. There's not aside from Nintendo not not many people are are really making the The effort to do anything like that anymore. I mean

[00:56:40] Castle crashes one of my favorite games of all time like that so that's a perfect game for that I know it's not split screen everyone's on screen at the same time, but Man old old people branded at how games used to be up here

[00:56:53] Turning into what's your next pick Eric what do you go for us? Oh, was I next I'm sorry Something that I'm glad is gone or it's not gone, but I think We can argue about whether it's been gone or we've gotten better at it, but

[00:57:09] grinding random encounters especially in our I feel like it's a good one Random encounters aren't gone per se, but I feel like Rpg designed and game design has gotten a lot better to the point where We're the love the level progression is pretty

[00:57:27] Six pretty good with like the story So you don't have to go out of your way to like just Kill crabs on the sea shore for like an hour to level up or anything like that which back in the day

[00:57:37] You know as I thought about this. I was like, oh, it doesn't really bother me at first And as I've gone back to place and we'll go over RPGs and like I don't have time for this anymore My time is that it's at a premium

[00:57:46] Back in the day like I said final fancy now is my first RPG and I remember I would just fight random battles for eight hours because I thought that was the coolest shit ever

[00:57:54] And now it's just like no, no, I need I need I needed to be a little more To keep progress with with the story here So I don't have to just grind out Random mindless battles for hours on and like I've recently finished

[00:58:07] Seven rebirth and I feel like seven rebirth did a pretty good job of Keeping you you keeping your level pretty consistent with the story without having to like Go around and find a bunch of stuff to fight so I think we've come a long way in that regards

[00:58:18] I don't ever want to go back to having to Kill things mindlessly for no reason Eric do I have a game for you I think the game that does all of that the best is Chronocross because Holy shit, I mean, I

[00:58:36] Matt's probably already heard me rant about this this shit, but like so chronocross does it like the best way possible so The

[00:58:45] You can fight and like just random and well I guess there's no random encounters all the enemies like on the over or all the enemies that you can fight in a

[00:58:52] In chronocross you'll just see on the overfield walking around you can run into them and fight them if you want to you can flee from any battle So you don't need to fight every enemy because you don't gain experience from battles in that game

[00:59:06] You'll occasionally get maybe like small Like small increases to HP or attack or whatever, but you The the biggest like the most incremental Stat boost and powerups that you get in the game you get from fighting the bosses

[00:59:21] If I'm from different like story segments and maybe some like hidden bosses and she'll like that Little increase is called yours your your star level which yeah, that's that's

[00:59:31] Like your your star level is kind of like I don't know it's yeah chronocross does the best play chronocross everybody Don't hate it because it's not chronocrig or please play chronocross Please both those games around my backlog so I have I'm I've played chronocrig or chronocross

[00:59:47] Yeah, I'm up of two minds of this. I think it depends on the game for me like I don't know why but in final fantasy four when I played it for the first time Blast year I

[00:59:59] Blight run around on the moon grinding like it didn't bother me. I think cuz then also I ended up grinding while watching TV and over leveling and Absolutely smiting the boss after it owned me like four times in a row But then like in

[01:00:14] So I was no secret. I love the cuz the games like a dragon franchise, but in the first of the two RPGs You that you like just hit this wall where everyone's killing you and you can you have to just go grind it out at the

[01:00:26] Serena until you get to the right level and then you can progress and it just Pist me off because it's just halted the story which is when I'm playing those games for

[01:00:35] And so I think it really depends on how well it's done and like on the opposite end as much as I love 16 And I did love final fantasy 16 the fact that everything leveled up with you meant you never felt powerful

[01:00:47] And like by the end of that game alive is a badass like he's so powerful But you never really feel that powerful because everything's scaling with you and so I think you need to strike a balance but like I agree

[01:00:59] Of all my caveats with rebirth the leveling work pretty well I mean, I also since like halfway through the game played on easy because I just I wanted to see the story

[01:01:07] I was I like the battle system. It's not my favorite and so I just wanted to see the story But even still the combat is dynamic enough in the game allows you to level up enough that you're not really ever grinding very long

[01:01:19] And because of the open world stuff that adds to it also right cuz you're going out of your way if you want to do that stuff And you can get a lot of experience there

[01:01:27] I don't mind grinding. I think excessive grinding is what I'm glad has gone, you know But it's all the same and super Mario RPG like I loved running after every enemy on screen trying to fight everybody

[01:01:39] Like it was just fun to do it to eradicate every good mom screen What about if I come like counter my own point here Grinding of that variety has just kind of been replaced by grinding battle passes right like

[01:01:53] It's no different just playing 60 hours to unlock the last level of the battle pass. I mean they just replace one kind with another It's you know But um, and that's why everybody should just build like chronocross because it does the best

[01:02:05] Well, everybody should go play chronotrigger the better game and then I guess you can play chronocross Just saying oh Look I am a publicly notoriously Chrono crosshater only because I played it on the PlayStation and

[01:02:20] It runs poorly on the PlayStation and also the switch for now. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, so good And play it on the switch. I want I need to replay it because I need to give another shock

[01:02:30] So I remember when I beat it and did a new game plus and saw that I lost all my skills I was like what the hell that was the point

[01:02:36] But I think also it had to live up to chronotrigger for me which is still to this day my favorite game of all time And it's never going to and so like I think I need to re-approach it with more analytical eyes and just be like

[01:02:47] All right, this is not gonna be chronotrigger. This is something different play it and just I think I'll find love for it That I didn't have before but like when I heard I was getting a sequel to chronotrigger and then I got that

[01:02:58] I went this isn't chronotrigger what is this No trigger exactly Yeah, that's I think that's where chronocross gets the shaft the most is that like People think of it if people didn't think of it as

[01:03:12] The the sequel or follow up to chronotrigger it might have gotten a more fair shot if it was like If it was just cross like something else cross people probably would have Probably even at the time of day, but

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[01:11:44] Yeah, Eric was talking about Oh, was it's random encounters random encounters right yeah, that's right. I got so entranced about Chrono cross god damn it I This this kind of counts as a mechanic. I miss like cool secret unlockable characters. I missed that shit

[01:12:05] Like we talked earlier about the Tony Hawk games having some of the cool shit ever Yeah, like Wolverine spider man heck shrek

[01:12:14] Why not man they had the wolf um I can't do it this hand cuz it's all messed up like they had the finger guy that would like yeah He was like your hand oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, oh

[01:12:24] Him characters are the best fighting games had some of the best ones too Yes, especially the really obscure ones like some weird polygonal boss and virtual fighter It was just a bunch of colored shapes that you'd unlock at the end or whatever

[01:12:36] Yeah, I love that what the little dino dude gone in uh and I think it's taken one or two Yeah, and then there's like whom are the bear and the tech and games to literally a kangaroo Yeah, yeah, I think it no I think what's name was? No

[01:12:53] Yeah, I don't remember the name but yeah, or even like beat them up. It's too like We're talking about castle crashes earlier you get unlock like every basic enemy as a playable character You can unlock some of the bosses as playable characters that was that was awesome

[01:13:07] I loved getting a new character in that game and then just running through the whole game again as that character So I'd like different abilities and like twists on the magic spells and stuff so good aura like the

[01:13:18] The hundreds of different characters you can unlock and like Marvel versus Capcom to Of course smash bros still kind of has it because like you can kind of cheat you just cheat your way of getting every character And smash bros ultimately so like it kind of doesn't count

[01:13:34] Yeah, but like any original smash brothers or even the game keep one melee like when you would get that I've challenged your approaches and like the siren plays I need to fight them to tell unlock them

[01:13:44] Is the best you like oh my god am I am I even can I even beat this guy you'd hand it to your older brother who is the the house pro Please please be well a bunch won't walk me you too

[01:13:59] I think of I think of a kuma from the Street Fighter series 2 he was a bit as well. So That's good I seem to remember Didn't one of the licensed to we might acquire spider-man games let you play as green goblin

[01:14:11] Can I unlock my fly around his green goblin? I remember that that was super red Yeah, yeah, I think that was in the first movie game

[01:14:19] And then in the sequel game like I think you could unlock different costumes and then like the new spider-man games like that's my favorite thing about Let's not my favorite thing

[01:14:27] I like the new spider-man games for a lot of reasons but like all the unlockable costumes and spider-man miles Morales and spider-man two are all awesome and like so many deep cuts and custom costumes and Samniya came up with

[01:14:38] With like help of comic book artists like I love all that stuff. That was great Yeah My next one is still a little meta again. I do not miss the world's obsession with motion controls now

[01:14:51] I'll admit that the Wii had some cool stuff and like the fact that we dropped the ball and getting a good lightsaber game on the Wii still Muggles my mind Because none of those games really utilize the Wii controller like real like feeling like you're using a lightsaber

[01:15:05] But yeah, I just I don't want to play video games to relax I don't want to run around my room with the connect or the move or the the like and look

[01:15:15] I like the Wii a lot actually. I loved Wii sports. There were so many games already loved But every time they allowed me to turn the controller sideways or use the class controller I was very happy because I just I hated like looking spider-man the three which

[01:15:30] admittedly was not a great movie based game on the Wii But allowing you to like flick the Wii mode and the non-chuct to swing was really cool For the first 10 minutes and then it got very tiring very fast

[01:15:44] Just constantly flick in your arms. It's just I understand why motion controls were such a hit I understand I wouldn't and like the this which still sort of uses them like you can use it in some of the games

[01:15:56] You know using the joycons, but like I'm glad that it's like a secondary feature now and not the primary focus of every game because it was just I think it was too gimmicky I liked what the best games did it really well

[01:16:09] But the majority of games did it either mediocrely or very badly and so I'm just glad we've kind of moved past that And shut up to the games that like did have motion controls but also gave the option to use just regular input on like a controller

[01:16:24] Like arms shut up to arms because it fucking rules and you can just use a and be to punch Maybe or the trigger is actually two of those the best way to play it

[01:16:32] Shut up, don't hit I think that's what originally came away from like Mario Galaxy and like Skyward Sword 2 I just like I just don't want to wake waggle mic controller to make Mario's thinner

[01:16:41] I don't want have to like use the non-chuct and and the Wii mode for like Link's Sword and Shield like I just want to play it regularly and I don't know if that was included regular there. But I know that the re-releases

[01:16:52] On the switch you just play those like with regular controller now so Did for friendly go back play Mario Galaxy still probably need to go back and check out Skyward Sword Yeah, Skyward Sword port is okay. I the way they remap the controls work pretty well

[01:17:08] I I got further than I did the first time I played it on the Wii but I still haven't beaten it I still stopped like halfway through. I'll get through eventually Right on okay

[01:17:19] Kind of obscure one that I came across while I was doing some research and this Arkens back to the N64 days If you remember the game called perfect dark

[01:17:28] Successor to golden I double a seven. I don't think perfect dark was as acclaimed as though as golden I but I still remember it being a lot of fun Perfect dark had a game mode called counter operative mode where you could play the game split screen and

[01:17:43] Your one character would be Joined dark playing through level and then the other character would be spawn as a random NPC and then you try to kill the character coming through

[01:17:54] And I thought that was such like a cool concept that like doesn't get used a lot in games anymore It's like a cool way to like play through the campaign is like oh you have one character playing a protagonist and then your friend can just be the endlessly

[01:18:04] Spawning like like enemies in the map to like try and stop you I think we are particularly on this idea a little bit with like how we've had like these one before games like

[01:18:14] You know evolve which is not shut down or dead by day later stuff like that kind of like a iteration that idea

[01:18:20] But I was just reading about it and I watched a little bit of game play and I was like oh like this is like this is pretty cool I wish somebody would like still do something like that

[01:18:28] But I think that kind of goes hand-in-hand with death of like couch coughs flip screen too because like that Experience seems like it would lend itself to like a couch coughs flip screen experience Although I think

[01:18:38] One extra modern example I did think of that was I know death loop when it came out let an online player invade your game As like the assassin so I don't know I just came across the night thought it was like a kind of a cool

[01:18:49] Concept like hey have your buddy be the guy that tries to kill you or like I was just thinking like oh Hey, little like if my friend was like the elites like trying to kill me now is master chief like that

[01:18:57] But that could be pretty cool or something like that. I don't know one of my favorite zombie shooters of all time What you do that left for dead one and two let they did do that people right because be the survivors or the the

[01:19:09] Special team monsters so not the regular zombies, but like the They were the colors and yeah boomer the which and it was so much fun To do that. Yeah, I love that idea of like doing versus but not just straight up like

[01:19:26] Soldier for soldier which I mean can be fun as well I love those competitive shooter environments, but when it's like 1 vs many we had a custom version of that In golden eye I talk about this on flashback 64 recently where one person one player was the terminator

[01:19:40] We could you could turn the health all the way up like past a hundred to like to on the percent and so one person would be the Terminator with 200 percent health and the rest of the three of us would have like rocket launchers and try to kill them

[01:19:52] And they were that's an immediately would team up together and so like we made our own custom game based on that But yeah, I love being able to do that kind of stuff especially when you're some kind of like special

[01:20:01] In fact data or like special enemy. Yeah, it's a lot of fun. Yeah Another thing I'm really really glad is gone is So you remember in like in old Pokemon games specifically like

[01:20:14] It was mostly with third gen there were there were certain Pokemon that you could only get from going to like certain events in New York In getting a Pass for something like so so and in

[01:20:28] Ruby it's sapphire and I forget if it's also an emerald or not they're Gerachi you could only get from going to this Special place I'm pretty sure it wasn't New York or something and you had to get this SSAN ticket and with that ticket

[01:20:46] I forget how you applied to the game, but yeah all this all this like cool shit that Normal like real ass Iowa air and could not get like I had to have a game sharp to get that

[01:20:56] Like I can't go to fucking New York and any of this cool shit like no one's gonna trade No one that I know in my fucking immediate areas can be able to trade me any any of this cool stuff So yeah, I missed out on all of that

[01:21:09] I don't recall them doing that for like The the gen's after that because after that you know you get Wi-Fi stuff like that you could use but Yeah, I'm glad they don't do that shit anymore. Are they they kind of Kind of did

[01:21:24] With like newer ones where you would go to game stop and get a card for like a certain Pokemon and you punch in the code on your On your game and you could get the Pokemon then and there but You could get like multiples of those cards and

[01:21:37] Redeem them and then trade them to people so they were just all over the goddamn place Literally did not matter, but back in the day That's gonna make it do it also Game shark miscira Mis game shark so much and action replay

[01:21:50] Yeah, I love game shark. I love that most modern Emulators that I only use for 24 hours and delete because that way it stays legal Every I'm no later never keep around more than 24 hours

[01:22:01] But I love them class-gameulators now that game genies just included like I want to play earthbound and I'm sure that it's a lot of fun To not use game genie and experience the combat system. It's pretty dynamic

[01:22:13] But I hear it gets really hard and I'm playing earthbound for the same reason I played the game that inspire that it inspired underdale. It's for the story

[01:22:22] Combat, I'm sure is great, but like I want to play the story and so I'm currently doing a PC play through a Earthbound with game genie and unlimited health because I just I want to see the story

[01:22:31] I you know, I'm sure the combat's really cool and it is really cool especially for an RPG of that era But I love being able to use like also. I don't know anybody Maybe now but when I was growing up who could be contra without game genie like

[01:22:43] Contra is hard one-to-death. Yeah, and so I love contra 3 alien wars probably the best contra game ever made on the super Nintendo But I always use game genie for that so I could just have unlimited lives and just plowed through that game stuff on part is not surviving

[01:22:57] It's all the cool weapons killing aliens Let's see what was I had won for my last one and then it fell out on my head I mean there's so many things like little things here and there I mean I'm misperriferous that sounds crazy

[01:23:15] But I feel like modern gaming doesn't really have peripherals like look for as much as I hated Wago controls I loved like the Tar Hero rock band DJ heroes all of them like so

[01:23:29] For those who don't who have only followed me within the last few years during the pandemic I was I was obsessed with a game fuser which was a harmonics last game before they got acquired

[01:23:38] Which was like a build on the idea of DJ hero and this board game they made called drop mix where you could pick parts of songs and make new songs And it was essentially a DJ game without a peripheral

[01:23:48] I became obsessed with it. I was a featured streamer for a while. It was a lot of fun But like I miss playing rock band when when I had rock band when the neck and first came out I bought two sets

[01:23:59] So I could have and give to the friend a drum set And I so I could have two guitars multiple mics like I whenever we play I had a mic stand

[01:24:08] Like whenever we played with friends we would all play his band together like it was the it was the best and like I missed those days

[01:24:15] And even like you know the crazy peripherals on the we were a lot of fun like the tennis racket in the we wheel and like you know Link bow the link bow

[01:24:25] Or like light guns. I miss light guns. They must still make them but like time crisis on ps2 was the best I loved that and they just don't you know the the duck hunt like gun of course like they don't make that

[01:24:38] Those anymore like they used to they still make peripherals for consoles and stuff racing wheels flight sticks But like what's kind of adventure I'm refittive venture. I mean, yeah, you know what I bought ring fit adventure

[01:24:50] It was a lot of fun and like having the peripheral what like it worked really well It was fun to have like I don't know I like that kind of gimmicky stuff sometimes if it's really well thought out like all of the rock band

[01:25:00] And guitar here games were like They were worth it and like we don't really do that anymore And I get why it's a lot of plastic it's wasteful they don't resell well They're very limited in their use but like I missed I missed that era of like the

[01:25:13] The ps2 to 360 because like it was just everywhere at any everything at peripherals. Oh my god Shout out to that one on the Xbox that like what Mc Warrior I think it was oh it was um

[01:25:24] Was the metal or steel battalion yeah, where you had really a cockpit Oh my gosh, there was I'm gonna look that up off that if you are listening and you've never seen this steel battalion controller I think this is for the original Xbox right yep

[01:25:40] Look it up it literally like a mech Cockpit that you could control it was the coolest thing and then they made a sequel that bomb the immediate oh my god. That's red Dude, it's got so many pedals

[01:25:52] It's got like the fuck in the that me and you're like the world. You can convince me They didn't take that out of actual military vehicle right Like you have it that wouldn't you think I would give anything to give that a whirl

[01:26:06] But I'm sure for my you can see it's really fucking expensive Here's the question though has anybody beaten Dark Souls with it Because all the peripherals that exist like guitar hero controllers people have beat souls games with so I'm gonna have to do it

[01:26:19] They still have their uses this task falls upon my shoulder We're gonna spend 50 dollars on this piece of shit We have a nerve-mearing and like in like three months He's like he's trying to beat all the souls games with the steel battalion controller. Yeah

[01:26:35] I'm programmed the little like dupedy do lever to the launch my spells The technical term the dupedy do lever. Yeah, yeah Oh, but I hope that becomes a thing that's so cool. I mean look and or like the donkey Kong Cobongos

[01:26:53] Like there there've been games done quick runs of people beating stuff with those like I just Like super peripherals they're fun and like it's it's an it's an extension of the imagination

[01:27:04] That we were using to play these games right and they we just don't get a lot of that anymore And I'm sure there's the like I said there's still out there, but it's just not like I feel like in that era that I mentioned

[01:27:14] They they were everywhere. They were rampant mad cats was making knockoffs of everything like and it's just that doesn't Mad cats. It just doesn't exist anymore Oh, God yeah Mad cats was going insane with all his knockoff controllers

[01:27:30] I mean they did make some pretty sweet knockoff controllers though like they were all translucent There were this this probably doesn't know it's not a game mechanic, but

[01:27:40] One thing that's been abandoned that really needs to come back is the translucent like controllers and consoles and chill like that That needs to come back like like yesterday like I did a game white collar. Yeah, do oh my gosh like

[01:27:53] purple translucent switch or like uh make my cell phone translucent green or something I don't know I just miss it so much. It's so cool look at my my earbud case is like translucent green you can't see it because my my webcam sucks Miss it You know

[01:28:17] Sir turns or That's me yeah one last one for us Actually no, I pretty much went everything that Elsa had was mentioned during During the community input, so yeah, I think I'm I think I'm good. Oh, I did shout out I wrote down initially

[01:28:38] Meg evolution from Pokemon because they took those away, but those are coming back now, so that's kind of a move point Is in banym mechanic Yeah, that's true. I do love mega evolutions they were pretty dope

[01:28:48] They were one of the most popular like gimmicky things that every did in now ever since in the community isn't really seem to have liked like dynamics singer, tracerizing all that other stuff But it's coming back in the new legends game. So that's pretty cool

[01:29:00] Like after that like after after Gen 6 they were like hey Z moves right? Yes, for fucking stupid. It's like why would I do that when I could have a mega arrow Dactyl like that's stupid you're stupid and that was a cool concept because it gave such a

[01:29:18] A gavily sunlight to a lot of Pokemon that like weren't Like especially in the competitive scene, which was really cool and then some some of them that like

[01:29:25] Charizard didn't need to like me too didn't need to like why you glaze in the already popular ones like like come on now But yeah, that's that's that's that is coming back. It looks like in the new legends game, which isn't I guess it's kind of canonical

[01:29:37] Generation entry so no, but it is like building it's a weird time. You why me think I think like the last legends game was

[01:29:44] Like the nightmare fuel that was gang guys mega evolution is one of my favorites like you just like weird like monster coming out of the ground Thank you so cool. I can't gank ours. I love Amphros with the the flowing super saying three hair

[01:29:57] Oh, yeah, so good. I love a good mega arrow Dactyl is for sure still my favorite He went for just being terror Dactyl to just like terror Dactyl with rocks coming out of them I'm a constant pain Shut up too

[01:30:16] This baby kind of doesn't count. I don't know but like Arcade games like you know pop quarters into a while the time You lose like hundreds of bucks on arcade games pop it in quarters

[01:30:28] I like I like arcade games like now where I give this pop it onto my like my anber neck or like get the Yarket archive stuff on switch or something like that just press hit the select button to

[01:30:40] Virtually pop in a quarter and then play arcade. Yeah, that's cool. I don't that's how I be metal slug Oh, yeah, yeah, that's election. Yep. Yeah, I don't want to spend fucking 50 bucks trying to try to be metal slow

[01:30:52] I want to I want to pay five dollars for the game and beat it Yes, I want Yeah, that's my that's my last two cents that I have my tank is on e Same year. Yeah, I don't think I got like many I think that's that's it

[01:31:11] I guess though there's one it's a genre of game more but it's a kind of mechanic was like the like FMV games and we're seeing some of them Oh, yeah, but like like a

[01:31:20] Immortality which I still haven't played but before that like night trap and plumbers don't have ties Which did come back but like those weird FMV games. I love those sewer shark man sewer shark

[01:31:31] Nobody's played that game. I want to listen get to the games ever but I loved it really really cool name though Yeah, FMV in general man. I wish that was my my discord name sewer shark

[01:31:43] Good day you could change it. Hi, I mean whatever you want on discord sure Be on that's sure That's sure there's a Shoutout to Shoutout to Christopher

[01:31:57] What the fuck do you want cuz like for a while there he yeah was like an exact clone of me and my discord server That was fun that was confusing if you mean by fun it was confusing then yes now he's blathers 2.0 and that's

[01:32:10] Well because though it's the it in my server. I have a blather spot who's really really sassy and mean and Christopher cloned him as well too but But that that's it That's the show hey, that's that's that's that episode of everybody

[01:32:27] Bad one more time for the listeners go ahead and plug your your show and hold shows and Anything else you want to share the listeners sure I'll keep it brief You go to DJstoneregain.com and you can find it in a link to my merch store

[01:32:44] I have some cool mugs and t-shirts we're checking out tote bags You can find patreon for fun in games There's a free tier so if you want to just join to check it out and then maybe contribute a couple dollars

[01:32:56] Get a shout out some bonus pod stuff like that And then it also has links to all the other shows that I do it has links to all my socials

[01:33:06] I'm DJ underscore storm again across most platforms except blue sky where I'm just D-daste storm again because they don't like underscores for Reason and yeah if you find me on the internet through this say hi and let me know

[01:33:19] Nice an air great work people find your show. All you see yeah, yeah, sure I don't want to try to say here yeah go ahead and for listeners one more time tell them all about your show

[01:33:29] Really can find it and then anything else you want to share with them oh Yes, like I said at the top I host the unlockables and you can go to all my information is At which apparently this isn't cool anymore have a link tree

[01:33:40] But I have a link tree. It linked here. E e Ford slash unlock holes podcast You can find all my stuff there my personal Twitter or I guess X now but whatever The the unlockables Twitter Instagram all that fun stuff join our

[01:33:54] Discard server which is a little bit smaller. I haven't had time to nurture it as much because I've been Nurturing a child, but I'm also in pretty much everyone else's discord servers with everybody else so you can find me there

[01:34:04] I've also started dabbling with youtube videos. I released my first youtube video on a Korean of time Last month, which I put a lot of work into and it was a new medium for me to learn so I was a lot of fun

[01:34:15] Going over to youtube.com for slash the unlockables and check that out and subscribe I want to be putting up more videos on different stuff. Hopefully later this year I think I will be on a brief hiatus over summer as I

[01:34:28] Get more content and stuff ready and kind of figure out my my content life balance with the with the kid But I'll probably back late summer early fall with a bunch of new stuff that I'm planning so got a lot of fun stuff in works

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